Don’t Cry Wolfe: New Age Con-Artistry and Anti-Intellectualism

David ‘Avocado’ Wolfe has made a career out of peddling misinformation, pseudo-science and bold-faced lies. Examining his claims more closely reveals his cynical lack of integrity.

 

For those unaware of who David ‘Avocado’ Wolfe is, he describes himself as a: “health, eco, nutrition and natural beauty expert”. Others have simply called him a scam artist. This article will investigate the seemingly innocent methods he uses to gain followers, making loads of money in the process.

 

People like him have existed for a long time now; Deepak Chopra is probably the best example of someone who uses his image of being genuine and being ‘at one with nature’ to sell very expensive things to naïve people. What differentiates David Wolfe from Deepak Chopra is his approach – his uniquely lazy way of promoting his hoo-ha with no regard for scientific evidence, facts, or anything related to the truth for that matter. Chopra tried to get his products and methods scientifically verified but failed miserably, but it at least shows some effort on his behalf to sound more convincing, and reach a wider, more skeptical audience.

 

What David Wolfe has demonstrated is that you don’t need to be scientifically credible at all to reach a wider audience. All you have to do is speak about things confidently, confuse your audience and invoke a sense of awe through the use of long, complicated words as well as occasionally claiming to have a lab.

 

With almost 6 million ‘likes’ on Facebook at the time of writing, David Wolfe has a much greater social media presence than Richard Dawkins, Stephen Hawking and Neil DeGrasse Tyson put together, which is why I find him so problematic. He isn’t just another arrogant, self-righteous, New Age ‘guru’, he is very influential to many people.

 

Before going on to dispute many of the things David Wolfe has claimed over the years, I would like to look at what kind of salesperson he actually is. My personal favorite ego loaded extract from his ‘about me’ section is the following:

 

“David “Avocado” Wolfe is the rock star and Indiana Jones of the superfoods and longevity universe. The world’s top CEOs, ambassadors, celebrities, athletes, artists, and the real superheroes of this planet—Moms—all look to David for expert advice in health, beauty, herbalism, nutrition, and chocolate!

…With over 20 years of dedicated experience and having hosted over 2750 live events, David has led the environmental charge for radiant health via a positive mental attitude, eco-community building, living spring water, and the best-ever quality organic foods and herbs.”

 

As you can see, he doesn’t hold back at all – he makes great claims with so much confidence that it might seem convincing to some. Most of the ‘live events’ Dave mentions are in fact conferences such as the “Longevity Now Conference” (at which he will speak in 2016, as he has done in previous years) where he mostly just sells the Nutribullet (an expensive, yet actually very good blender for which he is the official spokesperson) through infomercials disguised as a presentation.

 

This video on the official Nutribullet website is a good example, which humbly claims that instead of just blending your food, this product actually turns your food into a superfood. This sounds great, but considering that the nutrient content of food does not change after being blended, this is clearly just a sales technique.

 

He also repeatedly keeps calling himself an author. Though there are books in which he is credited as having written, they have been shown to be plagiarised to a very large extent. You might be thinking “This guy is clearly an idiot, not me nor anybody else I know would fall for this!” but you will probably be disappointed when you look at his Facebook page and find that he has a much wider audience than you’d expect. This is mainly down to his extremely clever ‘Bait and Switch’ marketing tactic for which he mainly uses social media.

 

First, the Bait

David ‘Avocado’ Wolfe’s site shares many motivational and inspirational memes which many people will be able to connect with such as these:
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Many of his memes address current issues which resonate with people. In turn, these memes get shared very widely, and David accumulates a very large number of likes very quickly – which to him is just free advertising, since all these memes include a reminder that they came from his Facebook page. His memes work because they make you see what is wrong, and not why it is wrong – which leads us to react emotionally, and agree.

 

Unfortunately, emotions travel faster and further than facts. The memes being shared are usually quite vague so that they can appeal to as many people as possible, all of whom will probably ‘like’ or ‘share’ the content for different reasons. David Wolfe is as popular as he is because most of his fans like him for different reasons: be it a product he is promoting, one of the many opinions he holds, or even just simply the fact that his ‘game’ is coming across as the cool, honest guy who is ‘at one’ with nature. Once a basic level of trust is established some of his more elaborate woo becomes more prominent.

 

Lack of qualifications, and absence of academic credibility

Avocado claims to be ‘faculty’ at the “BodyMind Institute” – an institute built around selling pointless quackery. On their website you have the option to buy the ‘David Wolfe nutrition certification’ for only 600 Canadian dollars. From taking a look at his video lesson sneak peaks I realised that paying such an immense amount of money gives you access to 240 HD videos of David Wolfe taking a walk in the woods, visiting his garden, making a smoothie, and so on. Considering that he would probably want to use his best material to convince people to pay for it, I am really curious to see what you get for the money you pay that is not included in these sneak peeks.

 

Furthermore, in an interview he stated:

 

“I have degrees in Mechanical and Environmental Engineering and Political Science. I have studied at many different institutions including Oxford University. I concluded my formal education with a law degree from the University of San Diego.”

 

However, as you may have guessed at this point, I found absolutely no evidence for any of this being true. To confirm these suspicions I emailed both schools, asking whether David Wolfe ever attended them – at the time of publishing, they have not responded.**

 

The Hoo-Ha

Over the years David has spilled so much verbal garbage that it is difficult to choose what to include. Therefore I will focus on beliefs which would make even Chopra look like a sceptic.

 

  • In a short video Wolfe produces a spectacular word salad in which he says that deer antler is a “cosmic substance” (which he happens to promote and sell).

 

He also believes that mushrooms are from space, and that chocolate is an octave of the suns energy. I won’t even bother to dispute these claims, because I feel that would be a huge waste of time but thought I’d mention them so we could have a laugh together.

 

  • He believes that gravity is a lie:

 

“Gravity is not intrinsic to matter. That Carl Sagan idea that was sold to us on Cosmos on PBS, was sold to us deliberately to actually confuse us just so you know that. There’s people who have known that gravity is a force that can be displaced. There’s people that have known that since the ’50s or even earlier than that. But by screwing up, confusing our mind about things, and giving us incorrect theories we were brain washed into a totally different belief system. That gravity is intrinsic to all matter, we’re fighting gravity, we have to push our way through gravity to launch a craft up into outer space, all this nonsense.” 

 

The great thing about science is that it works, whether you believe in it or not. Notice how, for a person that claims to be reputable and scientific, he avoids sourcing any of his claims. He offers no evidence, nor does he mention anybody of any credibility that agrees with him. As previously mentioned, he is famous enough to not have to do any of this for people to love him. I would be very curious to see whether he could devise an experiment that backs any of this up?

 

 

The problem is not that he holds these beliefs – we should always be inquisitive and question information that is presented to us, even if that that leads us to believe things that clearly go against the norm. However it is a different matter entirely to disregard heaps of evidence, and portray these issues in a manner which makes it seems as though the scientific community is divided on these issues. It isn’t.

 

My issue is that through his enormous social media presence he influences people’s ideas about these topics, and prevents them from doing their own research and forming their own ideas by making it seems like he has it all figured out. Add to this fact that most people will not question his expertise or his academic merit, and very quickly people end up believing that it is completely reasonable to not vaccinate your children, or convincing a loved one with cancer that they should smoke weed instead of getting treatment.

 

A Wolfe in sheepskin?

Looking at everything that he claims to stand for: health, spirituality, love… I am left wondering what this guy’s motivation could be. If he is really only after the insane amounts of money he makes out of all of this, it would mean that he doesn’t actually believe the anti-materialist, down-to-earth things he says such as:

 

“There are many multimillionaires suffering in hospital beds, eating hybridized, genetically modified processed foods, who are spiritually, emotionally, and mentally confused. There are many billionaires even, suffering from poor health and unable to experience the vast number of enjoyments they have spent their life acquiring. I have few assets, and yet I’ve never lacked for anything. I’ve never eaten anything but the best food ever… slept in the best (grounded) beds ever… travelled to the most exotic lands ever… experienced the most extraordinary health ever, shared the company of the most beautiful friends and family, and most of all, met hundreds of thousands of fantastic, wonderful people like you who are hungry for the knowledge I share.”

 

Either he is knowingly lying to everyone simply for the sake of profit – which would be in line with this video in which he proclaims to be the richest hippie on earth and also with this very awkward response he gave when someone asked him about his motivations – or he actually believes the nonsense he spews and does not see the irony in his actions. Given the abnormal size of his ego, I wouldn’t put it past him.  One very applicable quote comes to mind:

“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way down through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false sense that democracy means ‘my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge’ ” – Isaac Asimov

I do not believe that David ‘Avocado’ Wolfe is a smart and calculating evil genius, and a part of me is willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, despite all of the above and the fact that he has been accused of sexual harassment in the past. I think his mind works in a relatively simple, yet efficient way by learning what ideas people around him seem to respond well to, then propagating these further in order to increase his popularity.

 

It seems that what it’s ultimately about for him is popularity, and acceptance by the people he surrounds himself with in order to maintain the superhero image he has of himself. He has become incredibly good at selling himself and his ideas through this constant method of trial and error. This would also explain why he has held so many mutually exclusive beliefs at different stages of his life (first it was only about health, then it was about being vegan, then it was about being a raw vegan… before it became about selling deer antler extract).

 

If he is a calculating con artist after all, then his marketing is so good that even though I am sat here writing a critical article about him, he still manages to convince me that he is “just” a person looking for acceptance.

 

** UPDATE JULY 2016: I have received the following response from the University of Oxford, in response to asking whether David Wolfe ever attended their university as he claims to have done.
Wolfe Reply

 

This is the first of a two part series about David Wolfe. My next article explores why his particular brand of fraudulence is so harmful to legitimate eco-activism and other similar movements. 

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80 Comments on “Don’t Cry Wolfe: New Age Con-Artistry and Anti-Intellectualism

  1. OK, I see your point. I recognize that a lot of stuff he spouts is ridiculous. I’ve never questioned that and I do chuckle with you over some it. It just never occurred to me that people aren’t smart enough to see through much of this stuff not to recognize it. I didn’t realize that he influences so many people. I just found it entertaining like you might find many things entertaining that you can’t quite figure out or believe. But your points are well taken.

  2. Mushrooms are from outer space? His article seems well written and given references to his ideas…….—-> 3. Martin Beech, “On Meteors and Mushrooms,” Journal of the Royal Astronomical Society of Canada 81, no. 605 (April 1987), 27

    1. That article is a look at how folklore explained where mushrooms come from. It isn’t saying that mushrooms come from space. It’s saying people believed that was one explanation of how mushrooms appeared, seemingly from nowhere. Along with thinking that lightning caused mushrooms to appear.

      1. JohnMcC: “Along with thinking that lightning caused mushrooms to appear.”
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        Actually lightning from summer thunderstorms do trigger truffle formation after a a few days. This was written about by both Greeks and Romans and also known by Africans who always know to collect Kalahari Truffles after Lightning storms. Unfortunately we live in a world where modern day intellects discount anything others say on a matter if they do not have the usual Alphabet Soup initials after their names. For years such accounts were heralded as myths and fables. Recent research work has shown that these related accounts associating mushroom appearances after lightning storms to be true. The fact that these people relating these experiences didn’t have the supposed academic background did not mean the experiences were untrue. They were. On the other hand other mycologists I follow and enjoy are people like Paul Stamets, but sometimes even Paul Stamets can go over board. For example his speeches on how Mushrooms can save the world. But anyway, here is some info on the lightning phenomena.

        http://creating-a-new-earth.blogspot.se/2015/12/snap-crackle-pop-rumor-has-it-that.html

        1. isn’t it more likely that rather than lightning causing truffles to grow, it is actually just plain old RAIN???? hello….use your brain please. Lightning is electricity in the sky, how on earth would that cause a truffle to grow wtf.

          1. I can’t reply tot eh reply to this reply. How annoying. Mazdayana “lightening” means getting less dark. Lightning brings down ozone much more than nitrogen, but rainwater adds nitrogen tot he soil through two pathways. one, it contains some dissolved nitrogen from simply being in the atmosphere, and two, it creates air movement in the soil, sucking in air with around 78% nitrogen.
            Also, most of the nitrogen within a fungal system is not used by the fungus, but by the other plants with which the fungus is in symbiosis.

          2. Mycelium/spore, rain, media, and opportunity. if lighning strikes, starts a fire that sterilizes an area and creates a bunch of dead material, then yes, shortly after the strike, there will be saprophytic mushrooms in the vicinity of the activity. is anyone actually looking to defend D”A”W here?

  3. I was at a conference at Alex Grey’s chapel of mirrors few years back and saw him speak about mushrooms. He literally told people that if a mushroom grows on a tree its safe for consumption. It is my understanding that this is false info that could be lethal if someone were to make that assumption.
    Also he lost me a long time ago with his whole cocoa marketing fuckery

  4. Nice hit piece. For a “science is my religion” type, you may want a few more references, and a few less opinions.

    Yes, the only way a person can be healthy is to eat plants loaded with glyphosate, get shots with aluminum in them, and gobble pills that treat symptoms while creating entirely new chronic diseases in the process.

    “My skin cleared up, but now I have lymphoma. Thanks Humira!”

    For being such pseudo-intellectuals, you guys who regurgitate misinformation that Monsanto and the pharmaceutical industry have paid good money for, are absolute morons.

    You have no critical thinking or deductive reasoning skills, rendering you literate parrots. Too funny.

    Now you’ll have to excuse me, I need to go read a corporate funded study on what think about the world.

    1. Damn, how did you know I work for Monsanto?!

      Also you seem to be someone who confuses googling with research. Skepticism is great, and you should always be skeptical of information you come across- you seem to understand that. I don’t get why you can’t apply that same skepticism to the ‘alternative’ views points you come across, but only to mainstream opinion. Being selectively skeptical leaves you wallowing in your own confirmation bias.

    2. Actually, how well did you read the article? Did you read the bit that said ” His memes work because they make you see what is wrong, and not why it is wrong . . .” So, if he says “glyphosate in your food is bad” he is pointing out what is wrong. No dispute there.

  5. Tell me, Wolfe supporters, is it possible to criticise him for his idiotic, anti-intellectual, scientifically unfounded claims and his banal platitudes and not be working for Monsanto or other corporations?

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  6. Creating an article just to throw shit at someone else is very low. If you had any dignity you’d let people make their own personal choices what to think and believe. Now you come out as a childish judgmental person with too much spare time.

    /K

    1. I’m not forcing my opinion on anyone, merely writing a critical piece about someone who I view as being detrimental to society, for selling lies and false hope. The idea is that people either:
      1) Agree and have a laugh with me
      2) Disagree and try to find evidence refuting my claims for a constructive discussion

      I wish people did their own research- the problem is people confusing googling with research.

    2. Yet shit-throwing is DAW’s foundational marketing strategy (fear-mongering) and his go-to defensive strategy when challenged. Asymmetric insight, indeed.

    3. there’s a sucker born every day, after all. problem is, by making said statement, you’re allowing a known con artist to continue plying his ‘trade.’ i guess you won’t care until you’re affected, right?

    4. I totally agree!
      Everything any one says is just a point of view
      You seem to be bastardising to get attention!
      Honestly no man is perfect
      David Wolfe has great books
      And videos filled w lots useful information that I feel is so good and useful! His marketing side of things is not for me so I just skip these videos and realise money is opportunity … Write something that has good intentions next time I think your a fool

      1. Good. There is substantial room for mockery of David Effing Avocado Wolfe. Yeah, gravity is a lie, chocolate is an octave of solar energy (that one’s downright schizophrenic babble, actually), flat earth, and mushrooms on trees are all safe–that one should DEFINITELY serve as “evolution in action” for a number of his True Believers.

        I’m seeing a lot of reposts of the drivel about rainwater being illegal to collect in “many” states lately. No, it’s but 9 states, and at least 8 of them are concerned about the health problems related to collecting and storing lots of water. But for the DAW types, it’s all a big conspiracy to get you to buy bottled water or not be self-sufficient or something.

  7. Thank you for this article. I am in complete awe at the ridiculousness and ignorant ‘natural’ methods to ‘cure’ things like late-stage tooth decay David Wolfe purports.

    His drivel has the potential ( most likely already has for some time ) to cause serious harm to people’s health.

    Most people either don’t take the time to or don’t really know how to research what he is reporting. I have read the comments on some of his posts and medical doctors have called him out with no response from him. He lets his mindless, adherents argue for him even though they fail, miserably.

    May the ‘SHIT’ rain down on him for the harm he causes.

  8. I find it interesting that Oxford replied how they did. my suspicion is that he is the “David Wolfe” that did not complete that course – just so he could legitimately claim he “studied” at Oxford. Wow.

  9. There are many out there who are out there for the buck. Do any of you know of Esther Hicks who has been channeling an entity called Abraham? For like 40 years she has been soaking folks.

  10. David Wolfe totally lost any respect I had for him having any knowledge at all, when he as someone who had espoused a “raw vegan” lifestyle as being great, then started selling deer antler extract – which is as vegan as suggesting I should chew leather….

    1. While I am not a DAW fan what-so-ever, I did want to point out that antlers fall off naturally at the end of the season, so while not being vegan, you don’t have to kill the animal, making it “vegetarian.”

  11. I wonder if the Wolfe supporters are more angry with those who scoff at this obvious fraud .. or if they are angry with themselves for being suspicious that they unconsciously know they have been conned.

      1. BArBUSHKIN AGAINST WOLFE. . BABUSHKA! WEL WOLFE HATERS. YOU CAN BELIEVE EVERYTHING TRUMP SELLS YA. . HE’S MAINSTREAM. . And he’s a dumb ass hick with no tact and bad hair do. Looking like shit eating mainstream gmo shit. And talking shit . Too. So you want to look like that dick Trump go on eat Babushka shit and be fruitful and multiply. The good book says to. Fuckery is what this one sides obviously set up posts by mates of the Bushkin or himself in fake accounts. . I’ve been following gmo glyphosate etc for years don’t Google and I know there’s a shit load of evidence it’s bad. Looks to your fucken dumb fuck of a president. Makes tgecommie and the the Koren look fucken saintly. Role reversal. Usa the retarded bullies. Bahag. I can say that coz I’m an ally though I think I’m going to fucken migrate to Antarctica and fall though the hole and live inside the planet. Leave the retards on the crust to dust when Trump hits the wrong red button to heat up his microwave gmo TV dinner and nuke the the Chinese the country and not his TV Chinese dinner of beef fucken noodles gmo wheat. . Hmm. He’s dense enough to do that. Think about it. ☺bahah retards you actually thought about it didn’t you. Gotcha. He would though. Truth or dare whI trusts that frump trump? Bahah no answer.

      2. BArBUSHKIN AGAINST WOLFE. . BABUSHKA! WEL WOLFE HATERS. YOU CAN BELIEVE EVERYTHING TRUMP SELLS YA. . HE’S MAINSTREAM. . And he’s a dumb ass hick with no tact and bad hair do. Looking like shit eating mainstream gmo shit. And talking shit . Too. So you want to look like that dick Trump go on eat Babushka shit and be fruitful and multiply. The good book says to. Fuckery is what this one sides obviously set up posts by mates of the Bushkin or himself in fake accounts. . I’ve been following gmo glyphosate etc for years don’t Google and I know there’s a shit load of evidence it’s bad. Looks to your fucken dumb fuck of a president. Makes tgecommie and the the Koren look fucken saintly. Role reversal. Usa the retarded bullies. Bahag. I can say that coz I’m an ally though I think I’m going to fucken migrate to Antarctica and fall though the hole and live inside the planet. Leave the retards on the crust to dust when Trump hits the wrong red button to heat up his microwave gmo TV dinner and nuke the the Chinese the country and not his TV Chinese dinner of beef fucken noodles gmo wheat. . Hmm. He’s dense enough to do that. Think about it. ☺bahah retards you actually thought about it didn’t you. Gotcha. He would though. Truth or dare whI trusts that frump trump? Bahah no answer.

  12. Snake oil salesmen were considered miracle workers..you put enough true facts with a whole bunch of total quackery and many folks will believe..i agree with you, there are way too many lies and inaccurate information that he hands out for folks who are looking for quick miracles….i jus loved how he put out that cranberry would cure an infection and so many people defended him for it being a fact..it makes me wonder how many folks he has hurt or killed with his opinions on curing their ails..but i see that forrest’s mother was right..stupid is as stupid does..

  13. I personally your attacks unsubstantiated. Maybe he changed his name since he went to College. It is likely Wolfe is not his real name. He has brought a lot of good to the world. Educed a lot of people. Changed a lot of lives. Why should he wait for modern science to catch up and validate the theories…. He is a pioneer. I am not saying everything he says is 100% true and I see he is a business man, but I also appreciate the good he has brought to the world. I am bit confused about his now fascination with grass fed been though, which is a major jump from veganism… but we all change. Hats off. Why shouldn’t hippies be rich. You dear author sound jealous and narrow minded to me and guilty of not substantiating your arguments, which is what you accuse of him most….. hmm

    1. You clearly have a lot of faith in that man considering that you find it easier to believe that he changed his name than that he is full of sh**. Thats ok though, not a problem.

      Which of my claims do you believe to be unsubstantiated? It would be good to know for future notice, and hopefully I can convince you otherwise by expanding on those claims. I am really all for an open and genuine debate, as my mission is to expose fraud.. not to insult people I secretly wished I could emulate.

      I understand he has changed many peoples lives, however my point is that he has done so for the worse. In my new article which will be published in the coming days i discuss exactly why i believe him to be so detrimental to society- and how he is damaging a lot of people with his fraudulent methods- I will gladly link you to it.

      “Why should he wait for modern science to catch up and validate the theories…. He is a pioneer” . This is not how science/technology/innovation works, I won’t even begin to argue with that statement.

      1. David Babushkin,

        (Preface: I did not know of David Wolfe until I read this article. He, or rather this article about him, was shared to me on my Facebook by a friend. I did find myself agreeing with some of his statements that you were polite enough to give throughout the article.)

        I agree thar being a pioneer cannot be used as a blanket Justification for every claim made, I would point out that when people’s lives are at drake, they may not have time for science to catch up. I think the case of Ignaz Simmelweis is a good example of scientists not being immediately open to something which they come to embrace later on, and of ignoring and even persecuting the doctor responsible for that idea. I read about this all the time with regards to so called alternatice doctors, and considering what I have read in “the Poisoned Needle, Suppressed Facts About Vaccination” by Dr. Eleanor Mcbean and “the Drug Story,” by Morris Beale, its been going on for a significant amount of time. I would point out that the ideal of the scientific process and the reality are 2 different things. And I would argue that experience can be more important than the peer reviewed process, similar to what Dr. Morton Walker points out in the introduction to, “DMSO, Nature’s Healer,” and another doctor pointed this out in, “Keto Clarity,” by Jimmy Moore and Dr. Eric Westman.

        It also comes up with MMS, a substance I use and defend. Many people have reported healings with this substance, but to verify even one of those claims, according to the scientific process, it would take hundreds of thousands of dollars and several years. Unfortunately, the scientific process has become big business. Which leaves small companies or individual doctors at a disadvantage especially of their treatment cannot be patented or goes against the common sense of the broader scientific community.

        I will admit that you lost me at some points, such as when you stated that it was bad to recommend Cannabis over conventional treatments. That story itself is an example of suppression of alternative Medicine, as documented in “Run from the Cure, the Rick Simpson Story,”.

        Using the word Quack and Quackery is also a red flag as this is the work of Pseudo Skeptics, who like use that label (arrogantly and sometimes ignorantly) as a weapon against everything with which they disagree. You dont strike me as a pseudo skeptic, however, and I have to say you were very refreshing as a skeptic. It would also be a tactic of pseudo skeptics to dismiss you simply because you use that label, so I am holding judgment.

        I hope to talk to you more in the futute, and I give you the best blessing I can, May the Father, Mother, Son, and Darkness bless you.

        Samuel Justus (Heero Yuy Parallax)

        1. First of all, thank you very much for your comment! it’s refreshing to have someone think about their answer and bring up valid points, as opposed to what I usually encounter in the comment section.

          I concede that in this, as well as my next article (http://theunapologists.com/beyond-woo-david-wolfe-co-detrimental-society), I come across as someone who ideologically opposes natural cures, and will defend western medicine against all criticisms – That is really not the case. I am well aware of the many problems western medicine is facing, its imperfect methods, and the enormous problem of the way business agendas are tied up in the industry. However, my argument is that on a rational basis, peer reviewed medicine is the only one we should legally be able to advocate when we’re in a position of power, whether our name is David Wolfe, Donald Trump, or anyone in a position of power. Personal experiences of course, can’t be neglected. If someone uses healing crystals to treat their diabetes and it works, then fair game.. amazing! However, it is still irresponsible for that person to try to convince other people to stop conventional treatments, and instead buy some of your healing crystals .. see the distinction I’m trying to make? Medicine works on a statistical basis – if something works for one person, it doesn’t mean it’ll work for another. Peer reviewed medicine has been shown to work in a large sample of a given population, whilst alternative cures only reportedly work on individuals and not in a significant portion of the population when subjected to blind studies.

          Furthermore, there are many peer reviewed papers about possible complications vaccines can cause. Although vaccine injuries are statistically unlikely, I hope nobody tries to deny that they do exist. I have not read the books that you have referenced, but “The Poisoned Needle, Suppressed Facts About Vaccination” has been heavily criticized for misrepresenting data, and making up data – something many anti vaccine sources have in common. I fundamentally disagree with a conspiracy in the medical industry for several reasons, most prominently the fact that I find it exceptionally hard to believe that all of the world doctors, nurses and immunologists operate under a secret and sinister agenda – it would be unfeasible on a global scale. In addition to this, especially because there has been so much uproar about vaccine safety since Dr. Andrew Wakefield published his discredited study linking vaccines to autism, countless peer reviewed studies have been published demonstrating the relative safely of vaccines (I say relative because I acknowledge that complications occur in one out of every couple of million cases – vaccine companies acknowledge this too).

          The next point is the supposed suppression of natural remedies: I don’t think there’s a conspiratorial agenda to suppress these as is commonly claimed,but instead think that pharmaceutical industries often re-brand and re-package cures derived from natural substances in order to draw a profit from it. Most of modern medicine is based on medicinal plants, many of which were identified and studied with the help of indigenous communities from around the world, their active components identified, and then repackaged to work more effectively. This not only makes the medicine better, but also allows the company to draw a profit – which of course I find problematic. With regards to medical marijuana, I don’t deny that the plant had incredible medical benefits, some of which modern medicine is only now beginning to explore. I would explain its supposed ‘suppression’ in medicine simply down to its legal status over the years, and the failing War on Drugs the US has been fighting for decades. If the plant had been available in medical circles, it would have become socially accepted more quickly, which would have worked against the interests of US governments directly befitting from its illegal status. It is only now that social attitudes are shifting that we are beginning to see some solid science on it… with mixed results. Few would argue that it has benefits, but we are far away from being able to say that it can replace any of the current cancer treatments – although many doctors recommend the use of cannabis alongside conventional treatments. We also see a similar issue with psychedelics, which due to their legal status, have not been studied as medicines, and thus their medical value is only now beginning to emerge.

          Science is self correcting, and many actions that seem conspiratorial can be explained otherwise. We indeed need to question all information presented to us, however it often so happens that we are less critical of information which agrees with our beliefs. If we think the worlds problems can be ascribed to a group of ill intentioned people, then we’ll see evidence for conspiracies everywhere – call it selective skepticism. My point is that most criticisms of western medicine are valid, however subjecting alternative cures to the same skepticism yields significantly worse results. Western, peer reviewed medicine is the best we’ve got, whilst alternative medicine can and should continue being used in private circles, by individuals … not marketed and sold with claims it can magically replace a cure which has been demonstrated to work.

          Any thoughts/ideas? did I miss anything, or do you disagree with something?

          In case you watch Game of Thrones: Seven blessings to you

          1. Dear David Baushkin,

            {Sorry for all the requests to google. I work from my phone and if I leave certain pages the entire comment gets deleted. Also some forums dont like a lot of links. The one link I gave I memorized.

            Well, first, I want to say that the standard you gave toward the end of your article is excellent, I just disagree with the conclusion. It may appear that all natural medicine works poorly compared to the Standard Allopathic Approach, but time after time I have found problems with those tests. For example, Anthropologist Vilhaljumar Stephenson documents at the end of his book, “The Fat of the Land,” an army test which was used to show that a ketogenic pemmican diet is not one fit for the army. However, if you look at the test, it only occurred over four days and keto adaption takes a bit longer, more like a month in some cases. Further, strenuous exercise is not recommended in the adaption period. In the first few days these soldiers should not have been exercising at all. They could have resumed thereafter at a lighter rate, and built back up to full strength. Attic explorers often worked very strenuously on a diet of only pemmican and water, and maybe some coffee and tobacco when they could get it.

            The reason I brought up “the Poisoned Needle,” was that in the articles included at the back, one of them talks about the persecution of alternative doctors, including how some were accused of being insane, brought before medical boards, and thrown into mental institutions. I will also state that whenever I have confirmed the sources in the poisoned needle, I have always found that they are either completely accurate, or slightly off, in one case the percent increase in Polio im Hawaii, by the doctor who created Krebiozen, was off compared to the original article but not significantly and his meaning was established in the original article even if it was more of a paraphrase than a quote that appeared in the Poisoned Needle.

            As for Dr. Wakefield, the Anti Vaxxed movement did not began or end with him. The best I can tell you about that case is that there are two competing journalists who have written about it, Martan Walker and Brian Deer, and they give very different accounts of the events surrounding the Wakefield Trial.

            I can also state that Wakefield’s partner was vindicated in court, and many of the families he treated stood by him, despite the Medical accusations that he was abusive in the sense of performing painful and so called unnecessary tests on the children. I would encourage you to watch the Youtube VAXXED Team interviews. They go across the country interviewing families whose lives have been changed for the worse by vaccination. If you want to friend my on Facebook or Google Plus, I post the interviews almost daily.

            There are many problems with trying to connect vaccines with autism or any other diesease. Some side effects may not show up until months or years later, everyone is different and may not respond the same. Also, if a doctor does not shale the vial in some cases, the mercury, being a heavy metal, can fall to the bottom of the bile and this would result in some children or adults receiving wildly different amounts of the mercury, which would occur even if the chemical compound containing mercury was only present in trace amounts.

            Never the less, there are studies connecting vaccines with autism and other medical conditions, “Vaccines Revealed,” “The Truth about Vaccines,” are both documentary series which cover some of these studies. In addition, Google: 30 scientific studies linking vaccines and autism.

            I do think that you missed something, and I state this with gentleness, you completely missed the point I made about how expensive drug trials are to perform. I feel the comparison I made with MMS is especially important, and yet I feel it was entirely ignored. To reiterate, to do drug testing on even one of the things MMS helps with, you would need hundreds of thousands of dollars, and several years, and even then, even if the tests were successful, it is no guarantee they would be approved or published, as happened with the Red Cross trial. www . quantum leap . is

            I also state this with gentleness, you still seem unaware of just how deeply corrupted the peer reviewed process is. Please Google: former BJM editor Marcie Angell no longer possible ethical nag. I’m sure you are familiar with that quote from her, but the whole blog is worth perusing as it contains much information about the corruption of the current peer review system. There are also philosophical objections to the peer review process, Google: Weeksmd are double blind studies still the gold standard? Hoffer.

            The blessing I gave was inspired by The Process Church of the Final Judgment, a Real Church, and I leave it with you again.

            Samuel Justus (Heero Yuy Parallax)
            If you were wondering why I sign my name the way I do:
            Parallax: my true name. I merged with several nature spirits and that along with other experiences has made me the being I am. I’m also a trans species furry.

            Heero Yuy: someone, a character, I have admired for a long time.

          2. Dear David Babushkin,

            There is another point I want to bring up. What if it isn’t magic Crystals that are used in the case of the individual being treating their diabetes, what if it is rather nutritional therapy such as an All Meat Diet, a Low Carb Diet, a Ketogenic diet, or a Vegan diet? Would it still be wrong for someone to try to recommend others follow such a diet, or use diet and supplements to treat their diabetes? Dr. William Davidson, author of “Wheat Belly” and “Un doctored,” has proposed dietary interventions with diabetes which go well outside the mainstream, such as giving up wheat altogether, and has experience with this treatment via his patients. Dr. Joel Wallah has proposed that Chromium and Vanadium can help prevent diabetes, particularly hypoglycemic reactions, based on his experience as a veterenarian before becoming a natural doctor.

            I also want to point out that a conspiracy of the magnitude you speak of only requires people in high positions knowing about it. Every doctor would not need to know about it. It is the training and system which makes Them, the doctors, biased. I suppose scopies law will be invoked by skeptics here, but I consider it a logical fallacy and I will not fear logical fallacies when they come from others. There is an excellent article on Whale, written by a doctor, on how the medical system essentially is a brain washing process: the long hours, the mental and physical stress, the power of the professors over their students in the final stages of the Post Graduate process. It is very destructive to the mind and body, including the thinking and reasoning portions of the brain.

            One suggestion I would make is to read Quake Watch’s article on Laetrile, and compare it to the information in the book, freely available online, “A World Without Cancer, the Story of Vitamin B17.” I believe you will see just how badly tests can be manipulated, especially egregious is the Sloan Kettering Tests, the subject of a new documentary coming out. “Second Opinion,”.

            Thank you for continuing to speak with me, and not ignoring my voice. I truly appreciate it. If you want I would like to friend you on Facebook. You are very refreshing to speak to as a skeptic and seem to be a guenuinely open minded and good person, being.

            Samuel Justus (Heero Yuy Parallax)

          3. Hey Samuel,

            I’m not sure what exactly your point is when bringing up your example referencing “Fat of the land”. From my understanding you’re criticizing the way a scientific study was conducted – however that criticism would not apply to the scientific method in general, as it would yield the correct results when executed correctly. The fact that many studies have been shown to be flawed (which includes studies linking vaccines to autism, a point I’ll return to momentarily) does not show the scientific method doesn’t work, but instead that much more rigor is needed in our medical process and the way we conduct, let alone the way we review these studies – I doubt many would argue with that. The fact that modern medicine has brought about increased life expectancy, and lower death rates from now treatable diseases is a testimony to the fact that the process works.

            As for the suppression of natural medicines, such as what is claimed in the book you mentioned “Natural Cures “They” Don’t Want You to Know About”, I also don’t believe this is happening on such a large scale. Mainly because that implies that most of (if not all!) the people involved in researching new medicines, or testing promising chemicals (natural or synthetic – most of them come from naturally occurring substances) are involved in this dark agenda – and I fail to believe that a conspiracy involving so many millions of people worldwide would be viable. Again taking medical marijuana as an example, which is now starting to change lives for the better because of its decriminalization and shifting attitudes world wide. Research is being conducted because its finally allowed – same goes for psychedelics (which, compared to weed, still have a bumpy road ahead but at least its going somewhere!), whereas alternative cures aren’t illegal, which allows science to evaluate these before concluding that they’re useless as medicines.

            Another consequence of such a suppression bothers me: in order for such a suppression to work “they” would have to know that the alternative therapies “they’re” suppressing are effective (why else suppress?) – which of course can only be true if there’s valid evidence to believe this. Is there any other evidence you are aware of to show that such a suppression of natural cures exists, besides anecdotes and testimonies by affected ‘doctors’ ? Also, having conversations about these things really distracts from issues and scandals pharmaceutical companies have actually been involved in over the years (such as the overperscription of opiodes, and their involvement in politics), which hinders an effective discussion.

            To come back to a point you made, that only those at the top would have to have a sinister agenda in order for a conspiracy to work I also don’t believe is true. Even though medical school is often called brainwashing, I would argue the same can be said for most scientific subjects at university. The long hours and the stress certainly make it seem that way, however to me this is simply explained through the failures and shortcomings of our educational system, which is a whole different topic for another time. Fact is that young doctors, just as most other science graduates, have immense quantities of very dense material to get through – knowledge which has been shown to be scientifically consistent- are effectively taught to think for themselves. With the amount of people involved in studying medicine, teaching it, and practicing it, I can’t imagine that most of the information propagated is false (and based on ill intentions by a select few). Here’s a link to a computer simulation which was produced that to show that in a system with as interconnected as ours and featuring so many variables as are encountered in the modern world, no global secret could be feasible.. i suggest you take a look at it, let me know what you think. Additionally, I’ve included a well researched article taking about a ‘Big Pharma’ conspiracy in more detail than I have mentioned here.

            http://www.acsh.org/news/2016/06/11/proof-that-there-is-no-fda-big-pharma-conspiracy-to-suppress-cancer-cures
            http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0147905

          4. Next I wanted to talk about vaccines supposedly causing autism, former doctor A. Wakefield and the film Vaxxed. First of all, let us consider the consequences of the claim that vaccines cause autism: it would mean that pharmaceutical companies have an agenda to make a significant portion of the population autistic .. which makes little sense on many levels (I’m happy to explain why in my next round of comments if you like). Also bare in mind that the pharmaceutical industry is made up of people, who vaccinate their kids.. would they really want to hurt their own children? Some people might say that vaccines are being pushed by governments and pharma companies because of the profits they generate, which also causes a logical problem. Namely treating smallpox, measles and other diseases preventable via vaccinating costs infinitely more and puts a much larger strain on the medical system than administering vaccines does.. why wouldn’t ‘Big Pharma’ want people sick with smallpox, measles, etc if they’re all about profit? Here are two links, one to a well sourced article talking in more details about the economics of vaccines, and the other are official CDC statistics on costs associated with a vaccinated/unvaccinated population.

            https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/02/vaccines-are-profitable-so-what/385214/
            https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/programs/vfc/pubs/methods/

            Before diving a little deeper into the Wakefield controversy, I would also like to mention that there is no problem with Mercury being present in vaccines. Mercury is a toxic substance, but the Thimerosal used in vaccines only contains a compound made from Mercury. On a chemical level this is a huge difference, since the compound form interacts completely differently than the elemental form. Table salt, also known as Sodium Chloride, is made up of Sodium (an violently explosive metal which reacts with water, and air) and Chlorine (a toxic gas used as a chemical weapon in world war 1) and yet causes us no harm (in fact we need it to live!). My point is that when listing the chemical composition of anything be it table salt, vaccines, tea/coffee.. it’ll sound scary. The mercury contained in the thimerosal has been shown to not be harmful in the administered quantities, which is also explained in much more detail in this official CDC publication.

            https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/hcp/patient-ed/conversations/downloads/vacsafe-thimerosal-color-office.pdf

            As for A. Wakefield: There has been overwhelming evidence showing him to be a liar and a fraud and in fact having had an agenda himself. First of all, the reason he got his medical license revoked is because of award winning investigative journalist Brian Deer’s work, which exposed that Wakefield had been hired by a lawyer hoping to launch a class action lawsuit against drug companies which produced the MMR vaccine (the lawyer clearly didn’t pull this theory out of his ass, so I’m not suggesting the anti vaccine movement started with Wakefield). The following extract comes from Brian Deer’s website:

            “Wakefield had negotiated an unprecedented contract with Barr, then aged 48, to conduct clinical and scientific research. The goal was to find evidence of what the two men claimed to be a “new syndrome”, intended to be the centrepiece of (later failed) litigation on behalf of an eventual 1,600 British families, recruited through media stories. This publicly undisclosed role for Wakefield created the grossest conflict of interest, and the exposure of it by Deer, in February 2004, led to public uproar in Britain, the retraction of the Lancet report’s conclusions section, and, from July 2007 to May 2010, the longest-ever professional misconduct hearing by the UK’s General Medical Council (GMC)”

            As you can see, the lawyer who hired Wakefield already had 1600 British families wanting to file a lawsuit (I’m guessing they thought these were vaccine injuries) but lacked the necessary evidence. I’m aware that Wakefield has come out and refuted those claims, and saying that Deer lied, but if that is true the science should speak for itself. However, in numerous attempts to recreate his initial findings no one has been able to do so.. so how can he possibly not be lying? Here’s a link to 75 different studies showing now link between vaccines and autism.

            http://justthevax.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/75-studies-that-show-no-link-between.html

            Given all of this, maybe you can understand my reluctance to watch anything more but snippets from Vaxxed. The movie’s cover and overall design using blue/black background, emphasizing the colour red, and showing scary doctor images, in addition to the above criticism of Wakefield’s work have led me to a prejudiced conclusion about the film. This opinion is only further fostered by this video explaining everything that is wrong with the film Vaxxed. I’m not submitting this as ‘evidence’, merely as something you might be interested in even if only to understand where my side of the argument is coming from.

            http://actingnt.blogspot.co.uk/2016/12/everything-wrong-with-vaxxed-autism-sins.html

          5. Also I’m a little confused because you seem to be aware that Whale.to is a discredited website, which often posts fraudulent claims and yet do not refrain from using it as a source of information. What makes you trust the authors? and in your opinion, do you find the sources provided there to be enough to support some of the outrageous claims made on the website?

            To finish off, you asked about diets as opposed to healing crystals. My answer would be unchanged.. we can all recommend anything and everything we want, however it would be wrong to do so if there is no evidence to support whatever we are recommending. Many different diets are commonly accepted as healthy lifestyle choices as opposed to cures, which doesn’t make them less important. Note that they still wouldn’t replace modern medicine, but would be used complimentary to it. Going back to your substantiated critique of the peer reviewing process and medical trials – I’m not suggesting that my arguments are based on the rigor of these methods. Rather, I’m saying that these methods are good enough to produce the modern world we see around us, imperfect that they are. These methods are responsible for all scientific and medical breakthroughs of the past century and while our process of evaluating research desperately needs to improve, the imperfections are not enough to explain the unanimous rejection of alternative therapies in modern medicine.

            I look forward to your reply my friend.

            Babu

          6. “complications occur in one out of every couple of million cases ” more accurately, complications are REPORTED in something like that number of cases. There are cases of rashes and fevers that are mild, and parents don’t mention them to their doctors because they may have been told that such a thing is possible. If you are expecting a rash, do you report it, or not?
            The most important point is that deaths from vaccine preventable diseases are thousands of times higher then deaths from vaccines.

          7. I had actually left this conversation alone because Mr. Babushkin was kind enough to friend me on Facebook, and had said eventually we would speak further, something I still have faith will happen.

            However, you decided to comment and so I would like to give a response. Your statement are an extreme oversimplification. This is for 3 reasons:

            1. Death rates from infectious disease when they were considered endemic is confounded by the fact of extremely poor living and hygienic conditions during the disease endemic period. From a hygienic and pleomorphic theory perspective this is extremely important because such conditions are liable to precipitate disease states, and because disease states are not set in stone, as one can become another.

            2. The point here is also that there are better and more sustainable alternatives to treating so designated vaccine preventable disease. This is an unfortunate tendency in modern society: isolating a variable and ignoring the whole of the equation.

            3. I believe, based on my research, that you are very mistaken about Vaccine reactions and their occurance. I have seen case after case of serious apparent side effects occurring concurantly with vaccination. In so many of these cases, the parent or victim reports that they doctors neither listened, nor did they report to VAERS. Doctors are, to out it bluntly, brainwashed in how they view vaccines and vaccine reation, which creates an extreme cognative bias in the way they view vaccines and reactions, and a similar bias occurs in the way they may choose to treat a disease thought to be prevented by vaccines. This bias extends to other disease treatment as well. Based on my research, VAERS is also massively under reported, and cases collected through the VAXXED team and other sources (including a nurse at my doctors office whose child was injured and is now on a feeding tube) tell me, personally, that you cannot attribute the massive under reporting solely to people not reporting a rash or other mild reaction.

            Parallax) –

            Samuel Justus (Heero Yuy Parallax)

  14. These sheep like Wolfe think they/’re being natural, but they are the complete opposite. They are anti-nature. There is nothing in nature that allows for their beliefs to be true. No part of nature allows for water to have a memory, or for chocolate to be an octave of the sun, and all the other nonsense. They totally direspect the true wonders of nature, and assume nature will somehow fit in with their made up beliefs. And when it doesn’t, they just deny it. They are totally anti-nature, have no interest in learning it’s true wonders, and have a very ego-centric view of the universe. And Wolfe is overweight too. Rant over.

  15. My friend who works maintaining a cancer database has confirmed that advice to cure cancer by trying natural cures or eat healthy can be lethal. Many people try this and when it doesn’t work, they come back for conventional treatment. For many of them, their cancer had progressed too far and it’s too late for treatment.

    1. Many people come to try an alternative treatment after their immune systems are destroyed by chemo and radiation. Blaming the alternative treatments is inappropriate.

  16. Actually the scientific community IS very divided over issues of gmo foods, conventional cancer treatments, and vaccines. Since you got that so wrong, I don’t need to read further.

  17. As vaccines almost killed my 4th child I did do my own research that led me to several pediatricians, vaccine researchers and an immunologist who all confirmed that vaccines can and do cause harm and death. One cannot believe everything they read and it is important to do your own research. My 5th child is not vaccinated, is 14 years old and has never had a sick visit to the Dr. I can’t say the same for my vaccinated children.

  18. The bottom line is simple: David Wolf may be a bit on the egotistical side and may also make claims that he has not substantiated. However, a lot of what he says are not specifically his own theories but often validated concepts shared by many many people who have dedicated their lives to research. You on the other hand, come across as someone who has ulterior motives. At least with David we all know that he has created a brand around himself and uses this brand to market his products. You have spent a lot of time, energy and effort to ridicule him. Either you have some personal history with him or you have other motives. I refuse to believe that you have sacrificed your time and energy simply to enlighten people of the evils of David Wolf?

    These sort of name and shame tactics have been used for centuries. When someone comes along that challenged big pharma or energy companies the firs thing they do is try to paint the person as a quack or a nut job. Much like what happened to Tesla… I;m not at all saying that David Wolf is even close to being in the same league as Tesla..but like you said he has a large audience and helping people realise that pharmaceuticals and the medical industry itself is driven purely by profit and it’s one big con. So to protect their business being the dodgy skanks that they would likely employ the services of freelance bloggers to write content to ridicule those who threaten their business.

    1. You are a gullible sheep who is a victim of bullshit. There is no big pharma conspiracy against Wolfe because he doesn’t offer any valid effective alternatives. He is simply are a narcisstic snakeoil salesboy.
      You are a victim of bullshit marketing by big alternative and it is you that needs to wake up. One day your life will depend on it.

      Good luck
      The Illuminati

  19. Shame, are you jealous???? Doesn’t every lifestyle change go with necessities & consumables? Isn’t it obvious if a life path is being followed that a brand ambassador would be someone on that path…athletes are sponsored (and paid) to promote branded sportswear, that’s how the world works.. I’m sure the brands would not allow their product to be represented by a person who doesn’t live the lifestyle… shame on you, go make your own fortune from something you love rather than trying to be destructive about someone else…you are sad!

    1. I’m just curious. Why do you characterise calling out bullshit as being destructive about someone else? Don’t you think people should call bullshit on things they see as bullshit?

  20. I never really gave the guy a second thought, but I never had read your article before, nor did I ever go to Wolfe´s website and encounter all his nonsense. I guess I don´t feel so neutral about him anymore.

    But yet, from a humble feeling based point of view, (which probably disregards my whole following comment), if I look at the people who f.ex. in my social media friends/colleagues/etc. respond to the David Wolfe content, they are totally reasonable human beings. Most are with university degrees and are so-called active parts of the society. I obviously don´t agree with everyone about everything, but I would imagine we´d agree on the basic things as all being the camp who would vaccine our children, or those who don´t believe gravity to be a hoax, or we would still go to a doctor for cancer treatment. Atleast no-one dares to publicly or in private to promote the opposite, and in the age of social media, I am sure I would have already heard a thousand times if opposite was true.

    And I think this applies to a lot of the followers, who “like” Wolfe. Out of the 11 million content viewers he now has on FB alone, I would find it troubling IF EVEN more than a third would actually be aware of what he actually is writing on his website and other articles. Majority of following comes from people responding to the emotional content memes, not as a response to being a rounded opinion about the guy himself and his anti-scientifical approach to just about anything. They don´t even consider buying his blender necessarily. People nowdays go for the quick clicks and read only the titles. They don´t delve deeper into any topic. And that probably explains Wolfe´s popularity. The risk is whether these innocent likes actually make it worse for those who take it to the extremes, to those folks who actually are responding to the complete hoax part of it all. But there´s nothing wrong about the result of eating a bit more vegetables in the process and considering what is on your plate daily.

    So question remains, how many are actually affected by his complete nonsense, but additionally how many of his followers, their families and friends have actually become healthier in their day to day decisions in what they consume. And if these directions in their consumerism have resulted into better production conditions, more responsibility in food production, etc. Maybe also all this anti-vaccination talk will eventually also settle, and we are left with (even) more responsibility in the reporting and openness within the field? One can only hope. And that will maybe lessen the next wave of anti-vaccination talk. I mean, it had to come at some point, no? People asking why is it that we do what we do and accept everything as it is? I find it great that there is discussion, even if it proves that there are a lot of people who do not believe in science, or believe that there is a massive conspiracy behind everything. World is hardly optimal.

    So, is it right to disregard him completely and make people lose faith, and go back to their microwave dishes and processed meats, or should one just shoot down the worst of his ideas and make the man return back on earth. To make him understand his responsibility. There certainly isn´t anything bad about promoting healthy diets, or even vegetarianism or veganism. Those who like their meats should eat their meats, maybe they´ll end up reducing and accept even that one day a week they´d be off meat eventually. Vegans always had the completely insane understanding of the world, that the change would come in a day and everyone will stop eating meat because they are more moral in their position. Sometimes it´s just great, that someone actually reduces or starts thinking about it. Or that a school or a working place diner would have a day with only vegetarian dishes. Or that there is a new restaurant around your corner that offers something else than a steak. Change happens slowly. And not that all this could be attributed to Wolfe, or people like him.

    But all in all, I don´t think he understands the responsibility he has a public figure, but in the same time has no problem in accepting the money. I am rather sure his speaker fees are not that tiny anymore either. Everyone accepts money when it´s available, and purity is out the window. That´s the bleak truth. You can always lie to yourself just to sustain your nice new lifestyle that you suddenly can afford, and not look back at your choices. And in this sort of person cult, I guess, these gurus will start believing it themselves too. You must be the second coming of Christ, because so many people actually believe you, why not, maybe it really is the truth, maybe God only wanted you to doubt yourself, and the truth is in his silence and so on. Diibadaaba.

    And if I got cancer, I would probably take chemo and anything my doctor prescribes, smoke weed and do superfood smoothies with loads of ginger and avocado. Just like I would put a horse shoe over my door to collect luck and keep bad spirits away even if I don´t believe in that nonsense. And if I am cured, I´ll hear ten different opinions about which one of those counterparts really was the one that healed me. And it will all be fine. I am healed, so I can die later.

    Thanks for your article. It was a very interesting and illuminating read.

    1. Thank you for your well structured comment! I very much agree with most of what you put forward here, and actually talk about much of this in my second article, written as a follow up to this one. http://theunapologists.com/beyond-woo-david-wolfe-co-detrimental-society

      Discussions about all topics are always healthy, but having the same discussions over and over just because they are linked to ideological standpoints is counter productive, and distracts from more pressing issues, which is fundamentally my motivation behind writing about David Wolfe

  21. so even I think David Wolfe is deeply confused and scared, I also think that you could benefit from examining your own beliefs around science.
    To believe there is a scientific answer to everything might not be useful in gaining clarity fast, which i think you are interested in. I do think there are many ways of knowing, and ultimately all information that is based on clarity will one day also scientifically proven if it is not yet, and at the same time the scientific method helps us in gaining clarity.
    there are many people that are not academic and consider much more credible then some academics that have underlying beliefs that are based on fear.

    1. I think we can all benefit from examining our own beliefs, but I think that would fit into a different article. The purpose of this article was to expose David Wolfe as a fraud, and send out a warning message that there are other scammer like him using similar methods. With your comment you have made assumptions on my epistemological position, despite this article not being about that.

  22. The cancer treatment-forgoing is sadly not uncommon, even among “science-minded” people like Steve Jobs, who had a rare TREATABLE type of pancreatic cancer that only comprises 5% of all pancreatic cancer cases. Had he chosen proven treatments instead of a macrobiotic diet, he would likely be with us today. Bob Marley also died of a treatable melanoma in favor of “healing wit’ de meditations of me chalice pipe”. I believe Tommy Chong is currently in a similar boat, having opted to treat his prostate cancer with cannabis. He now has rectal cancer too 🙁

    This stuff is more than just silly “woo;” it affects people from all income levels, education levels & backgrounds. People who see the obvious flaws in our for-profit medical system & “Big Pharma” then carry those logical concerns to absurd & dangerous conclusions because of drivel like this. Believing vaccines cause transgenderism or our government is hiding a cure for cancer are just a couple of the stinkweeds that grow from this type of rotten thinking. Anyone without a specific background in medicine is susceptible to it really. That’s what’s so scary/infuriating about it.

    1. Dear Frostine,

      Lumping all alternative treatments and theories together is also a pretty rotton way of thinking. The fact is, suppression of sussesful medical treatments goes back a long time. From the 15th Century doctor who discovered a successful cure for small pox and was challenged to duels by other doctors and driven out of the medical system, and the herbal healers and wise women who were persecuted by the church, to Professor Antone Bechamp whose research on germs and conclusions about the pleomorphic nature of bacteria were plagerized and corrupted by Professor Louis Pasteur, to Ignatz Semmelweis who was imprisoned in an asylum and Beaten to death for suggesting doctors watch their hands when going from the morgue to the delivery room, through the persecution of the homeopaths and the neglect of natural healing schools in the early 1900s inspired by the Rockefeler Drug Trust, to Dr. Wilhelm Reich who discovered a life force energy which partially explains the pleomorphism witnessed by Be champ, and was rewarded with a similar fate as Semmelweis, through the persecution and suppression of Laetrile, Orthomolecular therapy, and DMSO, through to today and the VAXXED stories, recording after recording of what parents have witnessed happening to their children after vaccination, and the doctors still turn the other way.

      To borrow and appropriate a phrase from the Bible, “from the early natural healers, who you accused of witch craft to the later doctors, so many of whom were driven into obscurity or found dead under suspicious circumstances, from righteous Able to Zachariah,” those doctors who have dared to stray from the mainstream and who have found solutions to problems not involving a profit for the drug industry, have been ignored, suppressed, or Killed, depending on how badly they threatened the system.

      My understanding (and I could be wrong about some of this) is that Steve Jobs was an unsupplemented vegan, and that the plant based fats in his diet were very prone to oxidation, and likely were, causing free radical damage which ultimately lead to Pancreatic Cancer. Then, instead of using his wealth to go to someone in a long lived culture, and asking the oldest person there what herbs and diet they would use for cancer, he went to one of the best doctors in the world, and susbequently died. Dr. Joel Wallach has several lectures mentioning this on YouTube.

      Parallax) –

      Samuel Justus (Heero Yuy Parallax)

  23. Wow, david, I dont know either you or david wolf, But im a believer that everything in this world is only half truth. Yes, he may puff his ego up and give miss guided information, it may cause harm, it may cause wellness. depends upon the individual and their constitution and the information that they use. However, this article however sounds like you have a direct wound towards him and your a “child” having a tantrum over it. Meaning for you to receive this statement as something to ponder rather get upset and personal about. A lot of things that you have said in comments, after your article, in themselves are a reflection of DAW’s very own inflamed ego. In fact, a lot of the comments you have made about touchy subjects are laced with pot holes and misguided information. I know this because i have personally experienced, studied and performed the exact opposite results of many of your claims that you have based on “research” that, even though accepted by a large quantity of the public, are in themselves misguided. This being due to the curriculum they have studied. Even though the curriculum is famous and accepted by the mass as well. So, in conclusion, only by me and the others that are willing to be aware, are you, yourself and all that you are, equal to DAW in hazardous ego, and misguided information.

    1. First of all, let me start by saying that indeed my article was motivated by my own emotional responses, namely anger. I explain this in my second piece, because I acknowledge that I didn’t sufficiently explain in this piece why I find DAW and people like him so problematic. Check it out if you’re interested (http://theunapologists.com/beyond-woo-david-wolfe-co-detrimental-society)

      We clearly have ideological differences, and there aren’t sufficient platforms online to discuss these openly and in a verifiable way. Until this appears, saying “my research is better than your research” is pointless without stating sources.

      From your comment it seems like your are one of the special few in the world who have come to grasp information which apparently the rest of us are too blind or thick to understand – “In fact, a lot of the comments you have made about touchy subjects are laced with pot holes and misguided information. I know this because i have personally experienced, studied and performed the exact opposite results of many of your claims that you have based on “research” that, even though accepted by a large quantity of the public, are in themselves misguided”
      I find this ironic since half of your comment focuses on the apparent size of my ego.

  24. So how is he any different than all those religious “charismatic scam artists” of ALL stripes down thru history and to the present? How is he any different than our president and so many other politicians of all stripes? The asshole that wrote this clearly has an axe to grind with the so-called “New Age” folks. I like to refer to them as “New Age Banana Heads” How about you show some balls and include the more so-called mainstream individuals and organizations doing the very same thing. While he alludes to such a connection, he does not shed much light on it at all. In the end David “Avocado” Wolfe is just like every other successful business person. It’s all about “SELLING” your product. Truth matters very little…but selling and profit are quite important. This guy is and those like him are not the problem…lazy quick fix thinking folks are at the root of this. Is it any wonder why religion and/or spiritual mumbo jumbo is so popular. The sad part is how folks like this asshole cloud the “alternative or outside the box” products and methods that actually do work.

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